<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2672565589291329932</id><updated>2011-07-07T20:28:37.840-07:00</updated><title type='text'>This is a world without God</title><subtitle type='html'>This is Edwin Xander and these are my theories to prove the non-existence of God</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://edwinzander.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2672565589291329932/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://edwinzander.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Edwinzander</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2672565589291329932.post-3572508491182434257</id><published>2008-05-25T08:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-01-10T10:04:20.793-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Hello to everyone, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Myself Edwin Xander&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Follow me on www.facebook.com/edwinxander&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blog says only the concept of Me, it has nothing to do with anyone on any behalf&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Myself born in an Christian family, and in my childhood i use to go to church, and everyone prays and make worship, whenever such things goes on i use to ask myself for what they are doing these things?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When i ask my parents they say that we should be feared to God and should pray to him daily, so that God will give wisdom, knowledge, power and wealth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I started wondering if i do a prayer, how come i come first in my studies? if i just do a prayer how come i earn money? If i just do a prayer how come i built my house?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If prayer can do such things, then there is no need to Study, Earn or built a house.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All i can do is sit and pray for 24x7 363 days a year, then i will get everything, since God fulfills all your answers, "The more you pray the more you get closer to God"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These type of things first made up my mind into trouble, why these people are doing such innocent things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So i have been wondering and started to thing how this word God should have come into existence and how come people still believe that there is God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all we never know, how man was created? So humans started to think of how man would have been created? but no answers came to human mind, So they just made up their mind as that "There is an external power which rules, so they named as God"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As god never had any image, they just made up some statues and believed that this should be the God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is the stage of people who live in jungles, even in this 21st century, who never knows about the modern world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And when years passed by there were many people who impressed others by showing their different talents&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;take for example a magician, he does many illusions, where ordinary will never know about it, he is considered to the hero at that point and also he would be considered as God as he does what no one can do,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;like wise about 2000 years ago some some  people who had different talents and made s0me illusions, were considered to be God, as they does things like healing a deaf to hear and lot more, but the people never knew that there should be a hidden idea behind that as a magician does a trick, which is not know to anyone other than him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Introduction :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some people falsely believe that it is impossible to prove the unexistence of anything, but they are wrong. It can, for example, be proved that there is no even prime number greater than two. Other people use to say that there is no way to prove if there is a god or not, or even that we cannot get any knowledge of god (agnosticism). My opinion as a strong atheist, is that we can in fact prove that god does not exist in the physical world. This document is my attempt to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Definition of the word "god" :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To prove the non-existence of god we first need to define the word "god". When christians talk about god they mean an almighty being. This, I think, is the only god that holds, since it is the only god that can be logically justified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many people justify their faith with god as an explanation. What is the meaning of life? Where does time and space come from? Who created the physical constants? et cetera. Because we lack knowledge of these things - and maybe never will, since they are questions like "what is the color of a second?" or "how does sound taste?" - god is there as an explanation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's say that god is the meaning of life, what then is the meaning of god? If god has a nature, who created that nature? If god created time and space, how can god exist without it? Since creation is an event in time, how could god create time? and who created god? To answer these questions god must be almighty, or else you can't explain them. In fact you can if you say god stands above time and space and so on (which he indeed does if he is almighty), but to be able to prevent god from being tied to future phenomena, you must give him the quality of omnipotence so he can stand above everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The qualities of an god :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If god is almighty there are several qualities he must have. They are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;He must know everything. Everything that is, everything that has been and everything that will be. To be able to know everything that will be he must know every position and every momentum of every particle in cosmos (Laplace's "World Spirit").&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He must be worth our worship. A being that is not worth worshipping is no god.&lt;br /&gt;He must be able to do anything. If there are things that god can't do, he certainly is not omnipotent.&lt;br /&gt;He must be above time. Something that even St. Augustine deduced. But not only that, god must stand above all possible dimensions.&lt;br /&gt;He cannot be 'good' or 'evil' or, indeed, have any subjective characteristica. If god is all good, he cannot do evil things and cannot be almighty. Most people would object and say that good can do evil but chooses not to do it. Well, if god is all good he can't choose to do evil things, can he?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Evidence against gods :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neccesary a god is a being that is worth worshipping, so if there is no being worth worshipping there cannot be a god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not any of the existing religions can provide such a god. How do we know if there are no undiscovered beings worthy our submission? Well if there is a being that has either failed or not tried to communicate with us that being is not worth worshipping either, so the ontological evidence against god holds, even without complete knowledge of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The meaning of the word existence :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do we mean by existence? The very definition for existence is that a thing is said to exist if it relates in some way to some other thing. That is, things exist in relation to each other. For us, that means that something is part of our system ('The known world'). God is defined to be infinite, in which case it is not possible for there to be anything other than god because "infinite" is all-inclusive. But if there is nothing other than god then either god cannot be said to exist for the reason just explained, or god is the known world, in which case, by definition, god is not a god.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;According to Occam's razor :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation. It is impossible to gain information from non-information so God as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Some things are impossible to do :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are things that are impossible to do. For example "can man give birth to a baby instead of a woman", nobody can cover a two-dimensional surface with two-dimensional circles, without making them overlap. It is impossible to "add the numbers two and two and get 666". You can not go back in time (without passing an infinite entropy barrier). The number of things that are impossible to do are almost infinite. If god were to be almighty he would be able to do them, but it's impossible to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some people say that he can only do things that are logically possible to do, but what is? Is it logically possible to walk on water? Is it logically possible to rise from the dead? Is it logically possible to stand above time, space and all other dimensions - and still exist? I'd say that everything which violates the laws of physics are logically impossible and thus omnipotence is logically impossible. Besides if omnipotence is a relative quality there is no way to tell omnipotence from non-omnipotence. For omnipotence to be a valid expression it must be absolute, but we have no objective criteria to measure omnipotence so the word itself is useless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;God is impossible :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another way to disprove the almighty god is that omnipotence leads to paradoxes. Can god make a rock that is too heavy for him to carry? Can god build a wall that even he can't tear down?&lt;br /&gt;Also, if god knows everything, he knows what he will do in the "future" (in any dimension, not necessary the time dimension). He must have known that from the very start of his own existence. Thus god's actions are predestined. God is tied by faith, he has no free will. If god has no free will god is not omnipotent. Another way to put it is that to be able to make plans and decisions one must act over time. If god stands above time he can not do that and has no free will. Indeed, if god stands above all dimensions god is dimensionless - a singularity, nothing, void!&lt;br /&gt;Besides there can exist no free wills at all if god is almighty. If you had a free will, god wouldn't know what you would do tomorrow and wouldn't be omnipotent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The void creator, is it god :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If everything must have been created, then god must have been created as well. If god is not created, then everything mustn't have a creator, so why should life or cosmos have one?&lt;br /&gt;Besides this argument has another leap. If everything has a source and god is that source, then god must have existed without it before he created it. So if god created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. If all life must come from something and that is god, god is not alive and hence non-existent. If moral must come from god, god lacks moral. If logic comes from god, god is illogic. If nature comes from god, god is unnatural. If existence comes from god, god is non-existent. If god is the cause of everything, god is void.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Epilogue :&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have tried to define the only god that can be philosophically justified and show some examples why this god cannot exist. After reading this document you may object and say that god is beyond human understanding and can't be defined in scientific terms. This is the view of agnosticism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If god is so mysterious, how can we know anything about him? Through the Bible? How do we know that the Bible and not the Koran or the Vedha books, for example, are the words of god? (or the bible if you believe in any of the other two books). Considering the cruelties that have been made in the name of god, how do we know that not all religions are made by Satan?&lt;br /&gt;If there is no way to know this but to trust people who claim they have had "divine experiences" there is no way to tell true from false prophets. One has to give up his free mind and follow the authority of a dictator. Remember also that it is the person making a positive claim who has to prove it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Man can do anything he wants, but he can not want whatever he wants." --&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Schopenhauer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We shall not believe anything unless there is reasonable cause to believe that it is true" -- &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ingemar Hedenius&lt;/span&gt; .&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2672565589291329932-3572508491182434257?l=edwinzander.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://edwinzander.blogspot.com/feeds/3572508491182434257/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2672565589291329932&amp;postID=3572508491182434257' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2672565589291329932/posts/default/3572508491182434257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2672565589291329932/posts/default/3572508491182434257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://edwinzander.blogspot.com/2008/05/introduction-some-people-falsely.html' title=''/><author><name>Edwinzander</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
